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		By: mark		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2011 18:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.wi-ski.com/sharp-edge/sunshine-ski-village-and-a-lawsuit/#comment-3800&quot;&gt;redpanda&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh yeah, thanks for reading and double that for the comment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.wi-ski.com/sharp-edge/sunshine-ski-village-and-a-lawsuit/#comment-3800">redpanda</a>.</p>
<p>Oh yeah, thanks for reading and double that for the comment.</p>
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		By: mark		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2011 16:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Red Panda,

As a volunteer patroller do you have to deal with avalanche control? How about pulling people out of avalanches or tree wells? Do you have to work when you are needed or only when you want? What I am saying is that in order to get someone to deal with all of that on a regular and predictable basis requires payment of cash and not just a comp lift ticket and meal &amp; drink discounts. Your goals seem to be more about burning some empty time than anything else (and what a great way to do that).

As I note in my full length response, I&#039;ve had zero bad experiences with any type of patroller, but I&#039;ve seen vols go Five-Oh on minor infractions. But you also undoubtedly read my comment about them doing this so they don&#039;t have to cut to the front of the liftline, fetch the toboggan, and work their EMT skills, right?

In any event those who work as enforcers of rules are often viewed as killjoys, fact of life that is. However, most of us also understand, Ski Patrollers like police officers will also be there to rescue us.

You need to read the Facebook response to my post, where the reaction by two of the commenters there is essentially how dare I speak of volunteers in the same breath as pros.

I stand by my post.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Red Panda,</p>
<p>As a volunteer patroller do you have to deal with avalanche control? How about pulling people out of avalanches or tree wells? Do you have to work when you are needed or only when you want? What I am saying is that in order to get someone to deal with all of that on a regular and predictable basis requires payment of cash and not just a comp lift ticket and meal &#038; drink discounts. Your goals seem to be more about burning some empty time than anything else (and what a great way to do that).</p>
<p>As I note in my full length response, I&#8217;ve had zero bad experiences with any type of patroller, but I&#8217;ve seen vols go Five-Oh on minor infractions. But you also undoubtedly read my comment about them doing this so they don&#8217;t have to cut to the front of the liftline, fetch the toboggan, and work their EMT skills, right?</p>
<p>In any event those who work as enforcers of rules are often viewed as killjoys, fact of life that is. However, most of us also understand, Ski Patrollers like police officers will also be there to rescue us.</p>
<p>You need to read the Facebook response to my post, where the reaction by two of the commenters there is essentially how dare I speak of volunteers in the same breath as pros.</p>
<p>I stand by my post.</p>
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		By: Clouds over Sunshine Village &#171; Ski Mad World		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 06:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: redpanda		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 19:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Man... what a kind of ridiculous dig on people who volunteer their time to help deal with injured riders.  I&#039;m a volunteer, and I can tell you... none of us do it for the free pass or discounted food.  The majority of us are pretty well to do, my patrol has a guy who is literally a billionaire, and have a lot of time as a result of that to put in the work required to stay volunteers and spend a lot more money on travel, lodging, equipment, training, etc than we save by getting a free pass.  I put 60 days in patrolling last year, ran too numerous medical calls to list... something like 80, with several of them extremely critical.  Our medical training requirements are exactly the same as the paid staff, and we perform the exact same duties when in the uniform.  Some are EMT&#039;s and some are OEC on both the volunteer and paid staff.  We have our slackers, but so does the pro staff.  As to the &quot;cop-wannabees&quot; statement, I think you have it reversed.  The volunteer staff for the most part have no interest in acting like cops, because they aren&#039;t there every day.  They spend their time riding and taking calls when they are in a position to respond.  The pros, who get bored because they are doing the same thing every day seem a little more inclined to go after people for minor violations that I have ever seen volunteers getting worked up over and volunteers usually have some age on the pros and aren&#039;t nearly as amped up about the chase.  I don&#039;t know where you got your info, maybe you just rode with a couple of bad volunteers or things are different in Canada than down here, but I&#039;d have to say you&#039;re way off base.  Not all of the volunteers are great, but a lot of us put in a lot of time, money, work, blood and sweat to be a part of something we consider extraordinary and maybe you&#039;ll realize that some day when you need the help.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man&#8230; what a kind of ridiculous dig on people who volunteer their time to help deal with injured riders.  I&#8217;m a volunteer, and I can tell you&#8230; none of us do it for the free pass or discounted food.  The majority of us are pretty well to do, my patrol has a guy who is literally a billionaire, and have a lot of time as a result of that to put in the work required to stay volunteers and spend a lot more money on travel, lodging, equipment, training, etc than we save by getting a free pass.  I put 60 days in patrolling last year, ran too numerous medical calls to list&#8230; something like 80, with several of them extremely critical.  Our medical training requirements are exactly the same as the paid staff, and we perform the exact same duties when in the uniform.  Some are EMT&#8217;s and some are OEC on both the volunteer and paid staff.  We have our slackers, but so does the pro staff.  As to the &#8220;cop-wannabees&#8221; statement, I think you have it reversed.  The volunteer staff for the most part have no interest in acting like cops, because they aren&#8217;t there every day.  They spend their time riding and taking calls when they are in a position to respond.  The pros, who get bored because they are doing the same thing every day seem a little more inclined to go after people for minor violations that I have ever seen volunteers getting worked up over and volunteers usually have some age on the pros and aren&#8217;t nearly as amped up about the chase.  I don&#8217;t know where you got your info, maybe you just rode with a couple of bad volunteers or things are different in Canada than down here, but I&#8217;d have to say you&#8217;re way off base.  Not all of the volunteers are great, but a lot of us put in a lot of time, money, work, blood and sweat to be a part of something we consider extraordinary and maybe you&#8217;ll realize that some day when you need the help.</p>
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